Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly. We need to broaden our spectrum and clientele if we want to make more money. Next we would have the sales/customers feedback factor coming in to sort out the stores ranking. I will leave the items here to see if cg trader does manage to change things around over the next 12 months and if not will simply sell them on turbosquid. - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. Hopefully that would make squids to react. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the . Is it fair if I do? I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . CGtrader.com3. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. People may think that having that option makes it more likely for sellers to see their work by placing their models in the incorrect category but actually that just irritates buyers who may just go elsewhere to buy. @limonadinis (e.g. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. I think CGT should begin doing the same and promoting people for being exclusive to CGT after all that will help buyer confidence when they realize how many of their best artists are switching sides! Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. That place is dead for me. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design A customer coming in from outside can view stores, search inside a store or still search the global data base. clients will come where is a big diversificated data base of quality models (not only printable models) and artists will come where paying clients are. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. What I saw after that was a 50 to 50 ration decrease on Ts and increase on my CGt account. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. [/quote] http://rebloggy.com/post/art-copyright-turbosquid-infringement-kouotsu-ip-theft-kouotsu/34732573054 Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. Ts indeed was able to maneuver into a very dominant position regarding the Autodesk partnership, allot of us are very familiar with that place because of it. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. And it offers a more strategic dimension. In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. What's lacking? We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. [quote]1. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. I also think, as iterateCGI, the market control based on exclusivity will soon disappear. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. Bangalore Escort 3D 3D Photorealistic Female Rigged - TurboSquid 1789052 We are looking for contributors. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. just 2 years ago still existed. This is my principle decision . This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. The art is to do it structurally organized and easily navigable and then it is a matter of giving the people the right tools and they will do the rest issue I think. You said you have considered closing your store here, I get that but why not just keep it up? Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. That's just an easy question to answer 1. Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. Thank you again! Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. And in terms of openness and freedom CGTrader is the first. Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. I remember that too! Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. Pleas just stand your ground, we need people coming in not leaving out. 2. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. Hello, CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. Exclusivity to any marketplace has been proved a revenue loss. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. They just took multiple of my most expensive items and run for it. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Advertising? https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. Doesn't seem so. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. Here it is quite seamless and elegant. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. You need to find what you want based on category and budget and purchase it quickly so you can use the product or send it to who will. When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Realistic Female - 3D Model by kingnewnew - RenderHub The rumour that they can "borrow" models for check-out before buy to particularly trustworthy clients could also be true. And something ells , I have seen people criticize the young inexperienced and even blame them to some point for some negative experiences over here. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. [http://www.google.com|google11] Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. (I'm aware this involves many aspects) If there is a problem they will fix it for you. Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. Ha, ha. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". What would be your opinion? I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. I have met a bunch of really good artists here that I have had the pleasure of working with. But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. I'm done with them. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. TS can go to Hell, and never return again. I like how there is no join up fee. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. I have been studying their website from a buyers perspective thoroughly and I have noticed that; 1. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc. Rigged Female 3D Models | CGTrader It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. It's the artist that need to make a stand and simply take the short term loss from less traffic and exposure and join the marketplace that respects the artists. Better for who? I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. Payment Method "Even being a diamond doesnt seem to give me the benefits of sale coz TS takes so much from my sales (everyone's sale) that i would hardly call it profit or any acceptable income. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. Ps. TurboSquid is garbage. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. Maybe they should just smack up one big "We're cheaper than TurboSquid" banner and push it into Google Ads? In my understanding, for CG models, there are three main trends : large public with various expectations and low budget (roughly, poser people) ; professionals needing a good quality model quick and ready to pay for that (roughly, TS buyers), programmers wanting to create video games in search of game ready assets. Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. --GENERAL--. I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. Why should the artist suffer? I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/96a1c5f2-d18b-4e5c-ab3c-01bd5189b9ca/TurboSquid_Monopoly.png https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . There are lots of fun ways can gain points on cg trader . "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". Same with copyright infringements, same with low quality models (a friend of mine bought recently a model here, which was supposed to be .OBJ compatible : but the seller had just exported the obj from its original program, without even editing the mtl file to have the textures loaded automatically ! Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). Its great way to compete and fair . stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g.
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